Comments on: App Store Issues Get Heated, Apple Remains Silent http://www.macblogz.com/2008/12/11/app-store-issues-get-heated-apple-remains-silent/ Bridging the Apple Community and Keeping Tabs on the Rumor Mill. Mon, 15 Mar 2010 02:13:15 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: lucas http://www.macblogz.com/2008/12/11/app-store-issues-get-heated-apple-remains-silent/comment-page-1/#comment-2226 lucas Sat, 13 Dec 2008 23:57:31 +0000 http://www.macblogz.com/?p=1145#comment-2226 the app store isn't even a year old. give apple some time to sort things out. they deserve some credit for trying to create a system where folks can create 3rd party apps with an installer that doesn't brick the phone. sorting out categories, rankings, ratings etc is going to take some time. but Apple is trying. even the free promo codes move is an attempt to help with marketing which should not be all on Apple to do. and yet some folks are just posting their apps and doing nothing to promote their stuff. the app store isn’t even a year old. give apple some time to sort things out. they deserve some credit for trying to create a system where folks can create 3rd party apps with an installer that doesn’t brick the phone. sorting out categories, rankings, ratings etc is going to take some time. but Apple is trying. even the free promo codes move is an attempt to help with marketing which should not be all on Apple to do. and yet some folks are just posting their apps and doing nothing to promote their stuff.

]]> By: amolpatil2k http://www.macblogz.com/2008/12/11/app-store-issues-get-heated-apple-remains-silent/comment-page-1/#comment-2223 amolpatil2k Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:52:18 +0000 http://www.macblogz.com/?p=1145#comment-2223 @Todd @Andrew, you seem to have latched on to the hidden problem. Sadly appshopper.com would be able to deflect only a tiny fraction of the traffic that appstore attracts. That is the problem with 3rd party sites. They are very good but the majority visits the main site. The basic problem is how the apps are presented. How can they be searched. Take for instance the last.fm model, where a track is equivalent to an app, an album or group is equivalent to a developer and then compare the built in search and social networking, there is no match. Not that last.fm is decent. With all the Web 2.0 power and user data at their disposable, the management of these sites score 1 or 2 out of 10 in my book. Such sites are massively under utilized. The only theory I can come up with is that we live in an era where the web is slowly killing brick and mortar. The rate at which it is doing so depends on the how abstractable the product or service is. Naturally, the powers that be work in the opposite direction because brick and mortar would always be more profitable for them. @Todd @Andrew, you seem to have latched on to the hidden problem. Sadly appshopper.com would be able to deflect only a tiny fraction of the traffic that appstore attracts. That is the problem with 3rd party sites. They are very good but the majority visits the main site. The basic problem is how the apps are presented. How can they be searched. Take for instance the last.fm model, where a track is equivalent to an app, an album or group is equivalent to a developer and then compare the built in search and social networking, there is no match. Not that last.fm is decent. With all the Web 2.0 power and user data at their disposable, the management of these sites score 1 or 2 out of 10 in my book. Such sites are massively under utilized. The only theory I can come up with is that we live in an era where the web is slowly killing brick and mortar. The rate at which it is doing so depends on the how abstractable the product or service is. Naturally, the powers that be work in the opposite direction because brick and mortar would always be more profitable for them.

]]> By: Tai Kahn http://www.macblogz.com/2008/12/11/app-store-issues-get-heated-apple-remains-silent/comment-page-1/#comment-2217 Tai Kahn Sat, 13 Dec 2008 01:15:06 +0000 http://www.macblogz.com/?p=1145#comment-2217 ^^Exactly. ^^Exactly.

]]> By: Dan Warne http://www.macblogz.com/2008/12/11/app-store-issues-get-heated-apple-remains-silent/comment-page-1/#comment-2216 Dan Warne Sat, 13 Dec 2008 01:07:31 +0000 http://www.macblogz.com/?p=1145#comment-2216 $3500 to charity... man, I'd be pretty annoyed if I was the family member who'd loaned $24,000 and was getting paid back at the rate of $360, but the company could find the money to make a $3500 donation to charity... $3500 to charity… man, I’d be pretty annoyed if I was the family member who’d loaned $24,000 and was getting paid back at the rate of $360, but the company could find the money to make a $3500 donation to charity…

]]> By: ianL http://www.macblogz.com/2008/12/11/app-store-issues-get-heated-apple-remains-silent/comment-page-1/#comment-2215 ianL Sat, 13 Dec 2008 00:22:48 +0000 http://www.macblogz.com/?p=1145#comment-2215 @Jason: Right on brother! Makes sense to me. @Jason: Right on brother! Makes sense to me.

]]> By: Jason the baldguy http://www.macblogz.com/2008/12/11/app-store-issues-get-heated-apple-remains-silent/comment-page-1/#comment-2214 Jason the baldguy Sat, 13 Dec 2008 00:21:02 +0000 http://www.macblogz.com/?p=1145#comment-2214 This cracks me up... people think that just because you have the opportunity to build and sell your app, that Apple has some requirement to give you a fighting chance? That is a bunch of BS one of the things about the american dream is that you have the OPPORTUNITY to do whatever you want. That does not mean that someone else will make it easy for you!!! if you can afford to build an app and you do crappy advertizing then you will not make money!! also if your app is not a ground breaking app or is just not cool enough to make it as "the coolest app that ever was" then you will not make any money!!! its the opportunity not the guarantee! This cracks me up… people think that just because you have the opportunity to build and sell your app, that Apple has some requirement to give you a fighting chance? That is a bunch of BS

one of the things about the american dream is that you have the OPPORTUNITY to do whatever you want. That does not mean that someone else will make it easy for you!!!

if you can afford to build an app and you do crappy advertizing then you will not make money!! also if your app is not a ground breaking app or is just not cool enough to make it as “the coolest app that ever was” then you will not make any money!!! its the opportunity not the guarantee!

]]> By: Joshua http://www.macblogz.com/2008/12/11/app-store-issues-get-heated-apple-remains-silent/comment-page-1/#comment-2213 Joshua Sat, 13 Dec 2008 00:16:40 +0000 http://www.macblogz.com/?p=1145#comment-2213 Probably the biggest lesson learned from this and from hearing from iPhone Dev's is to not develop apps for the iPhone if you want to make money. The figures listed in the article are dismal and unless you want to be a one man shop, revenue numbers like that are never going to get you anywhere. Have any more than 2 or 3 companies/developers done more than 150k in revenue? If not, then thats just sad... even if you have hardly any expenses or costs, you would still be left with hardly anything. Probably the biggest lesson learned from this and from hearing from iPhone Dev’s is to not develop apps for the iPhone if you want to make money.

The figures listed in the article are dismal and unless you want to be a one man shop, revenue numbers like that are never going to get you anywhere. Have any more than 2 or 3 companies/developers done more than 150k in revenue? If not, then thats just sad… even if you have hardly any expenses or costs, you would still be left with hardly anything.

]]> By: Mackinstyle http://www.macblogz.com/2008/12/11/app-store-issues-get-heated-apple-remains-silent/comment-page-1/#comment-2212 Mackinstyle Fri, 12 Dec 2008 23:46:45 +0000 http://www.macblogz.com/?p=1145#comment-2212 Does it really take $65k to make the apps that they did? Seriously. Aren't these the type of apps you expect from a student working part time in their basement during school? Where is $4000 worth of art in those apps? Does it really take $65k to make the apps that they did? Seriously. Aren’t these the type of apps you expect from a student working part time in their basement during school?

Where is $4000 worth of art in those apps?

]]> By: andrew http://www.macblogz.com/2008/12/11/app-store-issues-get-heated-apple-remains-silent/comment-page-1/#comment-2206 andrew Fri, 12 Dec 2008 22:29:58 +0000 http://www.macblogz.com/?p=1145#comment-2206 I find appshopper (http://appshopper.com/) a lot of help in finding what is being released and changed every day. Why Apple doesn't have such a thing is beyond me. I find appshopper (http://appshopper.com/) a lot of help in finding what is being released and changed every day. Why Apple doesn’t have such a thing is beyond me.

]]> By: estreet24thave http://www.macblogz.com/2008/12/11/app-store-issues-get-heated-apple-remains-silent/comment-page-1/#comment-2204 estreet24thave Fri, 12 Dec 2008 21:21:35 +0000 http://www.macblogz.com/?p=1145#comment-2204 Apple needs a social network for iPhone developers to connect. Apple needs a social network for iPhone developers to connect.

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